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exact, et on va voir si il va perdre beaucoup de ponits....
si c'est le cas, sa sera plus un danger. car pour moi le danger vient quand meme de pedrosa |
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POur le moment, c'est quand meme Stoner qui est plus un danger que Pedrosa^^
Mais il va falloir voir comment cela se passe sur des circuits avec un plus petite ligne droite. Bien que je pense que la puissance de la Ducat' de Stoner ne fait pas tout, il faut aussi savoir l'exploiter, et pouvoir être rapide dans les parties les plus sinueuses. Sinon sa ne marche pas^^ |
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J'aimerai vraiment voir rossi sur la ducati.pour voir si il ferait tomber les chronos ou pas. |
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Je n'ai vu q'un résumé de la course motogp ... mais des que la mule me donne le motogp entier je me rematte ça en entier. Vous savez quoi ??? J'ai l'impression que ce GP va enfin me faire savourer le motogp comme les 500 dans les années 80 où il y avait couramment ce genre de baston a 3/4. :yes: :) que du bonheur ! Stoner est très en confiance pour se frotter au maitre de la sorte !!! Je pense que les 3 lascards ont pris bcp de plaisirs !:ange: Dommage qu'hopkins soit encore un peu loin ! Sinon belle course de RDP ! je trouve que ça fait du bien ! Finir !!! et finir 5eme en + !! Aller maintenant Randy on ne descend pas en dessous de 8eme et surtout on finit toutes les courses !!! Vous savez si kawa prévoit un remplaçant d'OJ pour les prochains GP ??? |
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bien sur que pour ce début de saison sa été stoner^^.
mais je parle pour les courses a venirs, je pense que stoner aura plus de mal. car faut pas oublié une chose, stoner na doublé qu'en ligne droite, je l'ai jamais vus faire les freins a qui ce soit. il a doublé dans le sinuex uniquement quand rossi écartait, sinon, rien du tout.... |
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Il y a de la maturité dans ce pilote. il a su tirer les conclusions de ses erreurs de l'an dernier. Chapeau a lui. il me fait un peu penser a rossi lors de ses debuts en 500. c'est pour ca qu'il me plait se pilote cette année. Par contre notre champion du monde , lui touche le fond. dommage pour le spectacle. |
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J'ai vu ni la course deux et demi, ni la course MotoGP à cause du travaille. Tant pis, j'regarderais la rediff sur Eurosport demain à neuf heures. :)
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oui mais rossi en 500 savait doublé^^.
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Je ne vais pas parlé du motoGP tout a été dit en gros, je reviens sur un certain n° 75 en 125, le pauvre Mattia Pasini, si Rossi n'a pas eu de chance en 2006, le pauvre Mattia doit être soit à la limite du suicide ou du meutre dans son team avec 5 resultats blanc sur 7 courses, sur casse mecanique à chaque fois, pour ceux qui on vu les 125 il avait comment dire....LA RAAAAAAGE !!:diable::diable: et on le comprend !regardez ça, il ne fait pas semblant !!
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AAAAIIIIIE! VaNjEy :diable: t'appuie là ou çà fait mal :boutons: .
A part changer d'équipe je ne vois pas ce qui pourrait le sortir de cet enfer le pauvre Mattia.J'étais triste pour lui.C'est pire que de la malchance. |
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pasini n est pas le seul a posseder cette moto la , non ? alors pourquoi ça casse pour lui et pas pour les autres ? equipes techniques , pilote bourrin qui fait souffrir la mécanique ? bah en tous cas on a trouvé un remplaçant a hopkins. :)
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La piste bourrin a été évoquée lors du GP mais avec l'acquisition de donnée l'équipe se serait dédouanée si c'était le cas non? et dans le plateau il doit bien y avoir un bourrin et demi doté de cette machine et qui ne casse pas à tous les GP's ou presque.
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oui etonnant, surtout que l on sait bien qu un 2 T c est fiable :p
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Est-ce que Hayden ne serait pas en train de prendre du recul vis à vis du Honda ? Des résultats peu probants (il est onzième), l'annonce qu'il ne courrera pas les 8h de Suzuka pour le HRC, des compliments appuyés à Ducati en conférence de presse ?
CapiTrex a fait un bon GP. Le premier virage a dû lui rappeller de biens mauvais souvenirs. Quant à Randy, il a gagné de gros points aujourd'hui auprès de l'écurie Kawazaki sport. Il devait être sur la sellete. Ce serait bien qu'il confirme la tendance. Qu'il mette les quelques jours à venir pour se refaire la santé :). Pour en revenir à Stoner, quand je regarde ces places à donington et à Asssen (4ème et proche du podium) l'an dernier, je pense qu'on a pas fini de le voir devant de sitôt. Malgré une bonne course qui met en exergue la qualité des suz', hopkins avait l'air très décu de n'avoir pu se bagarrer avec les 3 furieux devant. |
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impressionnante la photo, je plein la moto^^.
pour wabamanu, c'est quand meme un ptit mieux de regarder la course sans savoir le résultat, non?^^ |
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D'ailleurs, je sait pas qui à gagné. Au fait, c'est kiki a gagné ? |
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a non, je te l'interdit!^^
va plutot au lit lol celui qui a gagné est...... secret^^ |
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Hors les bouts droits, Stoner ne repasse jamais devant Rossi dans le sinueux. Mais on pouvait voir hier qu'il était tout de même dans les temps même si Rossi et Pedrosa remontait sur lui. il a été incapable de prendre le large ce qui veut dire que le problème des honda et yam est bien la puissance et uniquement la puissance et la vitesse de pointe. Mais bon, Stoner na fait que ce qu'il faisait jusqu'a maintenant et Rossi on en attendait pas moins. La surprise pour moi a été PEDROSA qui s'est tres bien battu et était dans le coup jusqu'a la fin. Ce qui veut dire qu'il va falloir compter sur lui tres bientôt. La seule difficulté est qu'il n'a pas la moto pour battre Rossi , la honda et la Yam ont le meme niveau et on voit clairement Rossi doubler Pedrosa à la régulière et proprement dans les 2 derniers GP. Euh, si on retire ces trois la.... ya pas grand chose derriere.... |
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Stoner est pas arrivé a partir mais les autres non plus.....
C'est du n'importe quoi de dire que Stoner gagne grace a la moto et sa puissance il suivait partout dans le dernier tour Rossi a rien pu faire meme dans le sinueux alors hein! Et on voyait bien dans la ligne droite que la Ducati depassait deja beaucoup moins facilement qu'au debut de saison cette victoire c'est Stoner qui est aller la chercher point. Et puis on avait dit en arrivant au Mans que Stoner allait etre moins bien, resultat pour le moment une 3eme place une 4eme place et une 1ere si ca c'est moins bien...... Stoner a fait une belle course Rossi aussi Pedrosa n'a fait que suivre |
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Je ne sais pas si la difference de vitesse de pointe a beaucoup baissé depuis le debut mais on voit quand meme encore une belle difference !
Coté maniabilité, je ne sais pas trop voir ça sur une course mais si la Ducati est difficile alors Stoner merite encore plus les felicitations parce qu'il se bat comme un beau diable ! Quand on pense à la fin de saison derniere, apres son transfert ou on pensait qu'il allait faire du petit bois avec la ducat sur tous les circuits :fou: Il est IMPRESSIONANT (euh oui c'est pas original ça comme commentaire, m'en fou :) ) Rossi a participé à une baston phenomenale et il doit tout de meme etre content de finir deuxieme. Quant à Pedrosa, belle course mais meme s'il suivait bien je ne l'ai pas senti capable de faire mieux et à part une ou deux attaques en fin de ligne droite... récupérée aux freins (faut dire qu'on aimerait pas etre à la place des freins quand Rossi s'en occupe !) Et Randy alors, une belle qualif et une recompense par une belle course, pourvu que ça dure !!! La prochaine course c'est Assen non ? Circuit rapide il parait (j'ai jamais vu la course d'assen :pascool:), mais rapide genre ligne droite de 2000km ou rapide genre plein de virages ultra rapides ? En tout cas vivement la prochaine baston ! :yes: |
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Dyst, pour Assen, ce serait plutôt un circuit avec de grandes courbes rapides et des gauches-droites rapides....c'est pas le GP de Chine quoi !!:yes:...y pas de longues lignes droites.
Mais bon, les 5 motos de têtes étaient de marques différentes !!....c'est rare !!:content: |
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Ah si a Assen y a que des lignes droites...
....Mais elles sont en formes de virages :yes: :) |
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Des lignes droites tordues ? Les effets de la bier(r)e hollandaise sans doute :yes:
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moi je suis impressioné par les freinages de rossi,il est tous simplement monstrueux (si ca vient de moi),et la yam a l'air hyper stable au freinage,je pense que beaucoup vont avoir du mal a la passer propre au freinage
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je suis tout a fait d'accord avec toi et je trouve meme que si stoner double facilement rossi dans la ligne droite c'est peu etre par ce qu'il sortait mieux du dernier virage en etant deja dans les pot de rossi alors que a l'inverse rossi devait deja combler un petit ecart avant de prendre l'aspi.
et pedrosa a ete le temoin d'un combat magnifique, pourquoi est ce qu'il est si timide sur les freins par ce que la ça devient un handiacp de ne pouvoir faire la frein, surtout que le plateau compte des bourins dans cet exercisse |
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les réactions d apres course ( en anglais , sorry :yes:)
CASEY STONER, winner, World Championship leader on 140 points "Going into this weekend we weren't sure how things would go. At Mugello we had a few difficulties and we thought it might be the same here. On Friday we weren't exactly on the pace, we were losing a lot in a couple of areas. Fortunately, the team worked really hard, we came up with a solution on Saturday morning and since then we've kept the bike exactly the same. The whole team did a great job this weekend and proved wrong people who said we can't win on European tracks. There were some nice passing manoeuvres going on everywhere. All three of us had our strong points and our weak points around the circuit, I was just trying to minimise my weak points and cover my lines, and it worked out. It was such a close race, no one could go away, it was very, very enjoyable to be racing that close. It was really good because our bike was set up quite well for the braking points, so for Valentino to pass us he usually had to run wide and we were able to pass him back immediately a lot of times. The way the team has set up the bike for me is fantastic, and the Bridgestones worked great again, at a circuit where they've struggled in the past, so they've really changed things around. Today was another great race for us, I'm still not thinking about the championship, maybe later in the season we can really start aiming for that." LORIS CAPIROSSI, 6th place, 7th in World Championship on 57 points "I made a good start but I wasn't so fast into the first corner because I've not got good memories of turn one from last year. Anyway, at the end of the first lap I was already 11th, but after I'd passed Edwards I lost a few seconds fighting with Melandri, otherwise I could have been fifth. Anyway, 17th to sixth is not so bad, I'm not disappointed. I knew I could ride at a decent pace and if I had had a better grid position I could have gone with John [Hopkins], though maybe not with the first three. I really want to say thanks to the team because they stuck with me throughout the weekend. For warm-up we completely changed the set-up to find better traction, and we did well because the bike was better. I was very depressed after qualifying but the people around me really love me, so after an hour I was ready to fight again. We used the standard engine spec today because it's got more speed, but we will give the new spec another try at other tracks." Valentino Rossi Position: 2nd Time: +0.069 "What a race! Even if I'm disappointed not to win, it's a great emotion to be part of a race like that and fantastic fun. It really was an amazing battle to the end with many wonderful overtaking manoeuvres by both of us in all different parts of the track! Unfortunately I lost a bit of time at the start and then it was quite hard to pass Hopkins because he was fantastic on the brakes. Then with Stoner it was a great fight and honestly I couldn't have tried harder to win, but he was a very hard rival. There were some places were we could have been better today, not just on the straight but also in some corners, but anyway it was a great experience and it will help us to understand what we need to do to keep on improving. Yamaha and Michelin are working very hard and the fact that we could fight like this today to the very end showed this. Of course I'm sad because I've won a lot of times here in Montmelo and I wanted to win again, but like I said, I don't think I could have done anymore today! We know that we can beat Stoner but today he rode like a god and he's a fantastic rival, so congratulations to him." Colin Edwards Position: 10th Time: +35.348 "Today was pretty much impossible for me; I had no grip in the rear from the start and I just couldn't get into a rhythm. Basically I couldn't load the front or turn the bike how I wanted. We've done everything this weekend, changed all the settings, springs, load etc, but we haven't been able to crack the problem. Qualifying was okay but today I just couldn't ride it. Tomorrow's our last test until after Brno and the only thing to do is use every single possible minute we have on track to get to the bottom of the problem so we're in better shape for the next few races, which are at some of my favourite tracks. |
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Dani Pedrosa
Position: 3rd - Best lap: 1m 43.376s – World Championship position – 98 pts Front tyre: 16.0" hard compound Michelin Rear tyre: 16.5" hard compound Michelin “Third is OK and I finished right with the leaders so I’m happy for that. It was difficult to keep up with Casey and Valentino, especially in the middle of the race, but with 10 laps remaining I was able to get close again. I was actually enjoying watching them because they weren’t overtaking each other in typical places and that’s why I wanted to get in there too! However, in one part of the track I was losing a lot and I needed the other part of the track to recover, so all the time I was right there with them, but I couldn’t fight with them. I just had to wait until the last laps and hope I could find something but I wasn’t quite close enough. I want to say thank you to all the crowd who came this weekend because they gave me a lot of support and created a great atmosphere. I’ve had some good results in recent races and the performance is steadily getting better so I hope to keep improving for the next races.” Nicky Hayden Position: 11th - Best lap: 1m 43.987s – World Championship position 11th – 41 pts Front tyre: 16.0" hard compound Michelin Rear tyre: 16.5" hard compound Michelin “I felt pretty good going into the race and through this weekend I’d been getting faster and faster in every session and going up a few places. I got a decent start in the race and I was looking to get a better result here because my pace in the warm-up was reasonable too. The race was a tough one though. Somewhere along the way the rear tyre became unbalanced and started to vibrate and chatter really badly – especially in the last five or ten laps I could hardly ride it. After that I just started losing positions and it wasn’t a fun race because it was hard to tip into any of the corners. We didn’t need that problem today so we’ll just have to look into why it happened and move on to the next race at Donington.” John Hopkins: “I’ve got to that point where I am now disappointed not to be on the podium, obviously I’m happy to be in the top five but I want more! It was a tough race and I held in there with the first three for as long as I could, but with about eight laps to go I started to lose a bit of pace and as hard as I tried I was losing that little bit more each lap - so I had to settle for fourth place. We’re really happy with the Suzuki and Bridgestone tyre package this season and the tyres are working a lot better than they did last year - so no complaints there at all. Now we have a couple of days testing here and I am looking forward to bettering my times and then moving on to the next two tracks that I think will really suit the GSV-R800. I am sure that we will soon have a good chance of getting on the podium every weekend!” Chris Vermeulen: “I got a reasonable start from the fourth row, but then got boxed in a bit and dropped back a couple of places. I had a tough fight with Alex Barros early on and found it really hard to get past his Ducati - as it’s pretty quick in a straight line! I got through the field and the bike felt very good and consistent right till the end. I had a battle with Loris Capirossi on the last lap, and although I got past him he just went by me on the next straight. Seventh place from 11th is not too bad, and we now have lots of work to do in the next couple of days to make sure we are stronger for Donington!” |
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Randy De Puniet
5th Position "Even though now it is difficult for me to breath, I am really happy about what I did today. Not only because I got the best MotoGP result of my career so far, but because I did it regardless of my physical condition. I already knew it was going to be hard and the knee, the shoulder and the heat didn’t make it easy. I did a regular start and I lost a couple of positions and one more when Elias passed me after a fright in La Caixa turn. I was sixth after the first lap but I was certain my bike was much better than his. I don’t know what happened but a few laps later he touched my knee and my handlebar and, even though it didn’t take much to overtook him that made me lose contact with the front guys. I kept pushing and rode a good rhythm but they were definitely faster. We did a good job this weekend and my Ninja ZX-RR and my Bridgestone tyres worked so well today. I was completely focussed on my lap time, my braking points… At the end, Capirossi was coming closer but I managed to maintain a distance and got this fifth position that has a really good taste. I would like to thank everybody, the team, Kawasaki, Bridgestone, for helping me make this race a success. I hope that we can now build on this result." MARCO MELANDRI (9th in the race, 4th in the championship on 75 points): "We're going through a rough patch. The team are giving their best, working hard, but the results just aren't coming. The bike doesn't give me any confidence and I can't ride it how I want. I'm really disappointed. We've struggled with the front end all weekend and after a few laps I lost confidence in it - it was skipping around and it was really hard to ride. We'll have to make some drastic changes." TONI ELIAS (DNF , 9th in the championship on 45 points): "I'm really disappointed because I was having a good race. I got a good start and it looked like 5th place was a real possibility until the engine packed up on the 14th lap. These things happen in racing but I'm really disappointed because this was my home race in front of all my fans." Alex Barros (43’41.769 – 8° classified): “I’m satisfied for my final result, I think I was good in this race. For us this week-end it hasn’t been very easy, we had some difficulties during the two days before the race, so this morning after the warm-up we decided to change setting but in the end we understood that it was better to come back and use the same set-up we had yesterday. Fortunately I made a good start, but at the first turn, I made a mistake and I lost some positions. Today, for me, the race was very hard, in the first part I had difficulties to recover position and in the second part I had some difficulties with the front. Unfortunately it didn’t feel as we expected and we maybe hoped for a bit more from this race; anyway, the thing that makes me satisfied is that I pushed strongly from the beginning to the end, fighting for the eighth position as if it were a podium. I have deep motivation and I hope to be faster in the next race.” Alex Hofmann(43’57.841 – 13° classified): “I’m not satisfied, because this race wasn’t as I had hoped for. I don’t know the real reason because after the warm-up in the morning I was confident to do a good race. When I started, I knew immediately that I didn’t have the right feeling with the bike. I did not make a good start, furthermore I lost a lot in acceleration and I couldn’t be fast as I wanted. During the race I made some overtaking, but the moves weren’t enough to obtain a good end result. I’m very displeased with the race, especially because I wanted to be good for all the many fans who came here today. Tomorrow we will spend one day more in Spain to do some tests, I hope to be able to find the right solution for the next race.” |
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CHECA: “This is a difficult moment for me, I cannot remember when I had a worse feeling in a race and this is not the result I wanted. Everyone in the LCR team has worked very hard over the weekend but we could just not find the balance or feeling that gave me any confidence to push. It is not fun to race like this but now we must look forward and hope the situation can improve.” Shinya Nakano – Rider, KONICA MINOLTA Honda (15th position) “It was a very frustrating and difficult race for me. I said yesterday that I had a good feeling in hot conditions but we just didn’t have that today for some reason. When I pushed hard the bike would run wide in the corners. I’m looking forward to tomorrow and having more time out on the track so we will be working hard again to make more improvements. This is important as we still have a further two races to come this month.” KENNY ROBERTS Jr - 16th position Kurtis did really good. He was much quicker than I was in the beginning of the race and I was squaring off all the corners and I couldn't get any grip to stay with them guys. And then my bike...the power started coming around, the grip level started getting closer front and rear. Just was trying everything I could to get up with him. Once I got within a second, from then on I was just trying to pass him, if he made a mistake at all. And he didn't make a mistake, didn't get off line. He was braking hard, going through the corner the same speed as me, but accelerating smoother, because I was trying to get a jump on him, so I would just spin. And I finally was able to get a draft off him down the front straight. And then I concentrated on Carlos (Checa) ahead and then he had something go wrong with his tire or bike. KURTIS ROBERTS - 18th position Yeah, it was the first time I've ever been in front of Kenny. That probably screwed me up more than anything, because I thought I heard him back there. But what really screwed me up halfway through the race, just for like a lap-I thought he was right behind me the whole race-and it was plus 1.6 seconds. Because I'd see his lap times and I wasn't paying that much attention to the lap board at first. And I would see he'd have a faster one than me. I figured he'd be right behind me. And then he kind of caught me off guard. And trying to catch (Carlos) Checa, I started rushing everything a bit. I just didn't have any grip from the start. I was just hung out to dry, just sliding the thing everywhere. I knew I was catching Checa, but Kenny, when he passed me, I thought I screwed up. I didn't even realize he was towing me along that good. But it was fun. When you watch Little Kenny, he's Mister No Mistake and I make a lot of mistakes. |
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Makoto TAMADA : « Je suis assez content de ma course car j’ai pu tenir un bon rythme grâce à notre nouveau pneu arrière.
De son côté, le pneu avant s’est révélé performant et constant, avec un bon retour d’information au guidon. » Sylvain GUINTOLI : « J’ai pris un mauvais départ, mais me suis rattrapé par un bon début de course. Les pneus se sont montrés très constants jusqu’à la mi-course, par contre par la suite, j’ai connu du drible qui m’a retardé. Nous devons donc maintenant identifier sa provenance. De ce fait, je n’ai pas pu m’accrocher à Tamada ni Hofmann quand ils m’ont doublé... Mais le bilan est malgré tout positif puisque je marque des points de façon incessante depuis le début de l’année pour ma première saison dans la catégorie reine. » |
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Fan de Rossi surement, en attendant j'ai adoré et j'en redemande!!
Je me met a la place de rossi, je préfère me faire battre avec une baston comme celle la que par une panne mecanique ou un pneu arraché. Stoner a un leger avantage en ligne droite c'est vrai mais il a été aussi très fort dans le sinueu, combien de fois on a vibré qd rossi prend des trajectoires de ouf parceque le petit veut faire son trou. Je dirais pas que Rossi est tombé sur plus fort que lui mais on en esperait pas tant avec cette baston de fous. Je vous dis que ça, si Vale perd le titre face à un gamin comme ça ce sera merité parcequ'on aspire tous à la même chose (je pense..) Que le meilleur gagne!! |
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Quel GP de malades!!!surtout les 5 derniers tours,avec Stoner,Rossi,Pedrosa devant son public...Si on pourrait avoir ça tous les GP,ce serait formidable!
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bon je croyais que c'était fini de dire que tel ou tel pilote ne mérite pas sa place! la course c'est la course! les résultats sont les résultats point final!
je trouve que l'on a eu une superbe course motogp et j'en redemande! très content pour Capirossi il était bien dans le coup d'ailleurs heureusement pour Randy qu'il n'y avait pas 2 ou 3 tours de plus! superbe baston devant dommage que Pédrosa n'ait pas été si incisif surtout devant son public j'ai l'impression qu'il a peur de refaire l'erreur d'Estoril. superbe course 125 ça change de voir 2 ktm sur le podium mais vraiment dégouté pour Pasini! dommage qu'il ny ait pas eu autant de bagarre en deux et demie. |
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+1 (Vale46) Rossi était vraiment impressionnant dans ce dernier virage qui précede la ligne droite,dans les autres on voyait sa limite car lorsqu'il poussait plus fort çà élargissait.
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aujourdhui ils sont réstés pour faire des test , anthony west roule pour kawa , pitt pour yamaha , itoh pour ducat et je crois aoki pour suz , tous le monde travaille dur .les motos vont evoluer rapidement et nous on va avoir encore plus de bataille.:yes:
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